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I had the pleasure of meeting Rene Barnett, Bruce Burgess, and Robert Howells during the BLOODLINE premiere in New York City this May. It is primarily through Rene that I became aware of this independent film, but it is the voice of Marie Denernaud that began my connection to BLOODLINE.
At the bloodline premiere
Village East Theater, NYC
In my work as an intuitive/medium, I come across deceased spirits – organized patterns and vibrations of energy – all the time. It’s just my world, and for those of us who do this work, you know exactly what I mean. It’s just the way we experience life.
I was in Rennes le Chateau in October 2006, hanging out with some friends. Both my cousin and one of our friends were sharing the fact that they both believed they were Marie Denarnaud in their previous life. Hmm…that’s odd, I thought.
For the record, Marie Denarnaud was the young housekeeper of Berenger Sauniere, who took Abbe Sauniere’s secrets to her grave. Many believe that Marie was Sauniere’s lover and confidante. It is my belief that we still don’t know the true identity of this mysterious key player in the Sauniere mystery, whoever she was.
So since my friends own the property which includes the Denarnaud family ruins, and this topic had come up throughout our visit, we decided to climb into a secluded spot on the property and see what happened.
It didn’t take long for Marie to find me. Seemed as if she was waiting, wanting to convey a message. From my third eye vision, I saw her wipe her hands on her apron. Then I clearly heard the following words:
BLOODLINE – cache of documents – buried outside Rennes le Chateau. And then she pointed in a certain direction, showing me which way to go.
Had I more time, I would have gone back to the area. I had already spent a lot of time there during this particular trip, and was really curious about a few things. But we were packed and ready to get on the road for the long drive up to Chartres Cathedral.
When I got back home to Connecticut, someone asked me if I knew about the film BLOODLINE. I got chills all over my body because that was Marie’s first word to me. So I found the film’s website and sent an e-mail along. No response came. Then a few months later, I sent another e-mail. Rene called, and we have been in contact ever since.
You can visit the film’s website at www.bloodline-themovie.com for lots of information, including the latest news, film clips and media interviews.
Suffice it to say the film features written clues found by Ben Hammott, and a chest of items that were unearthed in the Cave of the Magdalene. I had an opportunity to hold these items in my hands. Included are photos of that very surreal moment in the infamous Chelsea Hotel in New York City, when I got a chance to see them for myself.
Also featured in the film is Ben’s tomb with the mummified corpse and artifacts. The DNA profile of this corpse technically traces back to the Middle East - that much has been determined. The opening by which they film this corpse is from above, so the tomb is structurally unstable, and requires proper excavation.
BLOODLINE tries to put a face on the mysterious Priory of Sion, hence the interview with the elusive Nicolas Haywood. There is suspense and murder weaved within the story as well. All roads lead through Rennes le Chateau, through Abbe Sauniere and the Knights Templar, and back to Jesus and Mary Magdalene.
I asked Rene Barnett (producer), Bruce Burgess (writer and director), and Robert Howells (one of the film’s experts – he set up the interview with Haywood) if they would answer a few questions for us. Below are their responses.
Q: In the film, we are introduced to Nicolas Haywood, who speaks on behalf of the Priory of Sion. He is secretive and engaging. In your opinion and in the parameters of what you can divulge, what do you think is Nicolas Haywood's biggest secret?
Rene: I think the biggest secret is a very spiritual message with strong gnostic overtones... that we are just like Jesus, human and divine. And it's only a secret because the Roman Church has spent the last 2000 years crushing everything that gets in the path of their doctrine. He also talks of a coming apocalypse. But is this some cataclysmic event or, rather, simply the literal Greek translation of the word which is actually 'revelation'? I believe it's the latter.
Bruce: I think it is how the Priory have the vast knowledge of the past, present and, it seems, the future, that they have. I think the secret is in how they know what they know, and why they feel 'everything is happening according to a plan’.
Robert: Cannot comment at this time.
Q: How do you handle all the criticism from people who have yet to see the film? What drives such intense debate surrounding the evidence unearthed in this film?
Rene: I'm not surprised at all by any criticism we receive. That was expected. What has blown me away is the overwhelmingly positive responses we received from viewers of the film. We have had so much support and gratitude from people for the work we have done that it is at the same time energizing and humbling.
Bruce: It's to be expected. Presenting anything credible that challenges the religious status quo was always going to evoke strong opinions, which in turn creates more publicity and spreads the word about the film. I just think critics should reserve judgment until they have watched it though.
Robert: For me the response is as expected. I think the regardless of how many people attack the film, for whatever motives, the debate rages because the topics covered resonate with people as having some truth.
Q: The Rev. Jose Gabriel Funes, the Jesuit director of the Vatican Observatory, basically said in May 2008 that it was okay for their faithful to believe in ETs. When asked of past mistakes, he says "The church has somehow recognized its mistakes…Maybe it could have done it better, but now it's time to heal those wounds and this can be done through calm dialogue and collaboration."
In light of this statement by the Vatican's chief astronomer, do you believe – or have any indication from your sources – that the Vatican is ready to acknowledge their mistakes regarding the relationship between Jesus and Mary Magdalene, the long-held heretical belief of the existence of a bloodline, and the brutal suppression of that bloodline?
Rene: I think it will be a cold day in hell, if you'll pardon the expression, before the Vatican really admits its mistakes instead of making some vague reference. My goodness, can you imagine them really admitting that they have systematically protected pedophile priests while ignoring the children whose lives they have ruined... or the fact they are guilty of thousands upon thousands of murders to keep their position of power?
I do think they are very resilient and will develop a good spin when this information reaches critical mass with the world, and I do think that day is a-comin'!
Bruce: I believe, and our sources with the Church have told us, that they have always known that the doctrine was nothing more than a convenient story with which to control the masses. They have always known the truth, and I think there has been a long running schism within the Church, especially within Rome, at the highest levels, between those who have tried to follow a more esoteric, spiritual doctrine, and those who don't. Remember, the Vatican, by dint of its archives, is in fact, the largest new age bookstore in the world, and also the most prolific funder of 'heretica’' art by da Vinci and others. There is lots of proof, right in front of our eyes, that they have always known the truth.
Robert: I doubt the Vatican will admit their 'mistakes' just yet. To my knowledge the Catholic members of Sion are very much in favor of keeping things just as they are.
Q: As a Magdalene researcher and woman raised in the Catholic faith, I still shudder at how women were treated by the hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church, understanding that these vibrations are still in the collective unconscious at this time.
Do you believe the Church fathers were trying to stamp out connections to the Goddess traditions, and the connections between early Christianity and the Egyptian religion? Where did their hatred of women come from? Why does it appear they were so motivated to suppress the true identity of Mary Magdalene and the bloodline?
Rene: I don't think it's really a hatred of women as much as fear of loss of power. Women, in general, have always been more connected to their intuition and spirituality, I think. Also, it could be more practical than that... if priest were allowed to marry and have children, they would have heirs rather than leaving all their worldly goods to the Church.
Bruce: yes they did. The divine feminine and all she represents, was, and still is a great threat to Rome, because it represents this incredible power we all have within us, and if we were to realize that, and then learn how to use it, neither Church nor Government could control, or manipulate us.
Robert: Personally, I see the entire Magdalene issue as having more to do with the repression of the archetype of the empowered woman. I'm of the opinion that the intuitive, feminine aspect of both men and woman is a path to gnosis. If people attained gnosis, direct experience of the divine, they would receive their own truths and not need to rely on priests and religions to tell them how to be spiritual.
Q: In your opinion, are the Templars connected to the Bloodline? And if so, how?
Rene: I believe that certainly there were Templar families who believed they were part of the Bloodline, just as the royal families of Europe who ruled by 'divine right.' But actually, the idea of a few Bloodline families doesn't ring true to, or hold much interest for, me. According to our research, if there is a Bloodline of Jesus and Mary Magdalene, by this time, we would all be part of it.
Bruce: They brought back artefacts from Jerusalem that are crucial to this whole affair, and were strong believers, and practitioners, of an ancient wisdom, Gnosis, which was forced underground by Christianity.
Robert: Many of the Templars, heads included, were of noble origin. They were already part of the old families of Europe so if you subscribe to the idea of the bloodline coming to Europe then by default many of the original Templars were part of that bloodline.
Q: What is the biggest revelation so far in this process? The Sauniere parchments? The tomb? The mummified corpse? The cup of Jesus and Magdalene? The insights of Nicolas Haywood? What one thing rocks your world?
Rene: The first century Jerusalemite relics found in Southern France using clues left by Abbe Berenger Sauniere a hundred years ago are hugely interesting because they purport to be from the wedding of Jesus and Mary Magdalene, and the tomb, once fully examined along with the items inside, including scrolls and large, decaying old book could contain earth shattering information. Nic's insights are intriguing, sometimes puzzling, but ultimately very revealing if one takes the time to ponder them. He is absolutely one of, if not the, most interesting people I have ever met.
Bruce: the tomb. the implications of who, and what is in there, and where that blocked up entrance leads is just staggering.
Robert: Cannot divulge at this time.
Q: In the process of making this film, when did you realize that something bigger than you had anticipated was unfolding along the way? What is the big picture here?
Rene: I think all along the way we were amazed and surprised by events as they unfolded... cracking into the Priory of Sion and meeting Nic, connecting with Ben Hammott and his incredible tomb find, then finding the chest of relics buried in the Magdalene Cave range. When did we realize how big it this was? After 25 years of research into this mystery, I think I knew from the start of this project that there was something huge at stake. I just did not know how close we would actually get to it. I never ceased to be surprised and amazed at the serendipitous course of events that got us as far as we did.
Bruce: when Ben and I found the chest with the 1st century relics. As we sat in near darkness in the 'Cave of the Magdalene' we realized then that our lives wouldn't be the same again, and this discovery was huge.
Robert: I think I understood the potential of what we are revealing but I am clear that we have not reached that potential yet. What I understand of the big picture is not yet fully in view and is unlikely to be until the time is right. The Bloodline movie is an excellent starting point.
Q: Rene – your daughter Jolie died at the beginning of production on BLOODLINE. Now that some time has passed, have you been able to make any connections as to the timing of her passing and the beginning of this fim? What thoughts can you share about that? And what would Jolie have thought of this film, were she with us today?
Rene: As viewers of the film will see, Bloodline is dedicated to my beautiful daughter Jolie, who died on May 22, 2005, the first day of production of Bloodline, ironically, from a blood clot due to a genetic disorder called Factor 5 Leiden. She was a funny, sweet and loving girl who I miss every moment of every day. What would she have thought about the film? Well, first of all I have no doubt that she would have been proud of her mom for taking it on, and secondly, so pleased the information inherent in it has such huge implications for the world, and especially for women and the resurrection of the Divine Feminine.
Q: Bruce – did you ever feel that the making of this film was different than any other film you have made to date? And if so, how did it differ?
Bruce: Yes, absolutely. This film was so much harder than anything I'd done before. Harder to make, longer to shoot and edit, harder to raise money, more danger, more press, more spotlight, more criticism, more praise. Just a much bigger deal on every level than anything I'd done before.
Q: Robert – from what you are able to share with us, how did you make contact with Nicolas Haywood? Why him? Why you?
Robert: I've known him by his interests for over 10 years now. It's no secret that I was a Manager at Watkins Bookshop in London, one of the oldest esoteric bookshops in Europe and that Nic is a collector of rare, alchemical manuscripts. I had been researching Rennes-le-Chateau for some 15 years when the documentary began so I approached him via a letter that spoke of my knowledge and interests in these areas and he agreed to try to assist. Perhaps we have a certain amount in common in how we approach the subject.
There is one answer to one question that I would like to repeat. When I asked Rob when he realized something bigger than he had anticipated was unfolding along the way, and what the big picture was, he said, “I think I understood the potential of what we are revealing but I am clear that we have not reached that potential yet. What I understand of the big picture is not yet fully in view and is unlikely to be until the time is right. The Bloodline movie is an excellent starting point.”
I couldn’t agree more. If the clues are indeed from the hand of Sauniere, if the relics can be traced back to Jesus and Mary Magdalene, then that alone is huge! I’m not sure it can ever be proven, but time will tell.
I have often thought that the layer deeper than the story of Jesus and Mary Magdalene is the body of teachings of Jesus and Mary Magdalene. It is my opinion that these teachings are light transmissions or the Language of the Birds that come from the pre-flood world, from the realm of Thoth, the Egyptian god of the moon, magic, and mantra.
The thing that really has me going these days is the tomb complex, and what lies under the ground in this Languedoc Temple of Solomon.
If the Knights Templar did indeed excavate and find the scrolls of antiquity in the Holy Land and bury them in the Rennes le Chateau area, then perhaps the scrolls that allegedly contain the grid points that control humanity’s ability to ascend will be unearthed just in time, according to plan…
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